Honda is using a new sidewinder (laser) key system on several of their 2014 and 2015 cycles. 2014+ models include the CBR1000, CTX1300, CBR650F and Interceptor 800 models. The 2015+ NC700JD model also uses the same new laser keyway. Depending on the model, the bow shape may vary.
Honda laser cycle key blades and Honda laser automotive key blades are the same general size and shape but there is an added central milling on each side of the cycle key while the automotive key blade does not have a central milling. The result is that automotive keys cannot be inserted into cycle locks but cycle keys can be inserted into Honda automotive locks.
Pre-cut edge milling is required on both the automotive and cycle key blanks but the cycle edge milling extends further back towards the bow. Extra cycle key edge milling length is required since the cycle key is moved further into the plug as the cylinder is turned to set the front fork into the locked position.
Honda laser keys have been used on Honda automotive applications for approximately ten years. Honda laser tumblers have always been known for the fragile projection which interacts with key cuts and often wears away prematurely. Honda placed a solid tumbler in each lock to prevent users from easily pulling the key out of the cylinder when the cylinder is in an unlocked position. Honda automotive locks locate the solid tumbler in the last position near the tip of the key. Cycle locks locate the solid tumbler near the bow of the key in the first cut position. Depth and space dimensions are identical on both the cycle and automotive applications.
Honda continues their system of printing key codes on lock bodies. Field observations have found code series using prefixess of A and B. There may be more series prefixes. Our sample lock had a code of B412. The last four digits in the group of numbers indicate the key code. The code series have not been made available at this time. Honda dealers must order keys precut by code directly from Honda.
No known aftermarket key blank manufacturers have a replacement blank available at this time. Original key blanks can be ordered from Honda cycle dealers. The Honda key blank part number is 351221-MGP-A93 or 35121-MJE-A02. Both are the same blade with different shaped bows.
Genuine Lishi Tools
Manufacturers of Genuine Lishi tools have developed a picking and decoding tool for picking and decoding the Honda Motorcycle HON66 lock. The following information shows how to use this new Genuine Lishi tool. According to the manufacturers, Genuine Lishi tools are available from automotive distributors such as Allied, American Key Supply, The Locksmith Store and Transponder Island.
The lock uses the same depth and spaces as the HON66 car lock, the difference being the new warded profile introduced on the motorcycle lock . The lock retains the same 5 cuts on each axis A & B axis and retains the same 6 depths. The picking and decoding process is similar to that of the HON66 car lock .
Picking
The example lock (photom1) needed picking three times to fully open and enable an accurate decode . Position 1 , then position 2 and then position 3 were picked .
We began by inserting the tool into the lock. Once inserted and in order to pick to position 1, we pushed the pick forwards with a little force, fully pushing back the spring . Once the spring was fully depressed, we applied firm tension in the opening direction, keeping the spring depressed to enable picking.
Picking is the same as with this tool as with the Hon 66 car tool from this point. , bar some locks require the lock picking 3 times to open , we only pick a binding wafer .
Positions are picked in this order:
- Position A2
- Position A3
- Position B2
- Position B4
- Position B3
- Position B5
Once the lock turns and we have picked to position 1, we retension and again search for the binding wafers , only picking the solid binding wafers in this order:
- Position A2 is next to pick
- Position A3 is next to bind and pick
- Position B3 binds and picks next
- Position B5 binds and picks
- Position B2 picks next
- Position b4 picks next
The lock then turns and opens to position 2 , and we now reapply tension and pick any remaining binding wafers
- Position B3 picks again
- Position b4 picks again
The lock now fully opens to position 3 and locks in place. The lock is now fully open and we can begin the decoding process.
Decoding
We decode both the A axis and the B axis on their respective lifters in the same way as we picked the wafers as follows.
Starting with Axis A, we get a decode of:
- A axis position 1 decodes as a 5 cut
- A axis position 2 decodes as a 1 cut
- A axis position 3 decodes as a 5 cut
- A axis position 4 decodes as a 6 cut
- Position 5 also decodes on the A axis as a No 6 cut , which gives an A axis decode of 51566.
We then move on to decode the B axis . N wafer was present in position 1 on the B axis. B axis decodes as:
- Position 2 on B axis decodes as a 1 cut
- Position 3 on the B axis decodes as a 1 cut also
- Position 4 on B axis decodes as a 3 cut
- Position 5 on the B axis decodes as a 3 cut
Since there was no wafer in position 1 , the B axis decoded from positions 2 to 5 was 1133
This concludes the decode process. We must now back pick the lock to reset it.
Reset the lock
We must now reset the lock to allow a key to enter the lock. This is a simple process and only requires a few wafers to be picked.
First we apply a firm tension to the locking/reset direction , then search for and pick any binding wafers.
B3 is the first to pick. A2 picks next.
The lock then turns and resets fully to its natural state. We can remove the pick and proceed to cutting the key .
This concludes the basic guide to the use of this new exclusive Honda MC tool exclusively developed and released by Genuine Lishi.